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Jada and Will Smith have been hinting at relationship struggles, and an open marriage, for years. After some gossip about a certain rapper, the couple sat down on Red Table Talk. For 12 honest minutes, we get to hear Jada and Will discuss her former relationship with August Alsina.

And honestly? Snaps.

Having a difficult marriage is deeply personal and can be hard to admit to your closest friends, let alone the entire world. But she had that courage and we’re all better off because of it.

Here’s the truth: relationships have their ups and downs, be they monogamous, polyamorous, open, swinger, or anything in between. That’s just the nature of being people with oft-conflicting desires, needs, and expectations. And whether you choose monogamy or not, you’ll probably struggle with it at some point. That’s okay. The important thing is owning up to the challenges, talking to your partner(s), and doing the work.

This is a great example of a couple putting in that work.

When a beautiful, wise, outspoken ~queen~ like Jada Pinkett Smith reveals that she struggles just the like the rest of us, having these conversations with one another becomes easier. Addressing our unique realities becomes a little safer. And we all become a little more understanding, forgiving, and accepting, of one another.

Watch the cute video here, share it with your friends, and let’s normalize having these discussions. ‘Kay? ‘Kay.